Embodiment for the Rest of Us – Season 1, Episode 5: Nicola Haggett

Thursday, October 28, 2021

 

Chavonne (she/her) and Jenn (she/her) interviewed Nicola Haggett (she/her) about her embodiment journey. To learn more about her work, follow her on Instagram under the handle @nicolahaggett or find her on her website, www.nicolahaggett.com.

 

Nicola Haggett is a Body Trust Coach, Mentor, & Facilitator. She helps folks to unlearn body shame, rebuild self trust, and have a more compassionate, connected, and nourishing relationship with their “here and now” body. Nicola is a professionally trained, experienced and compassionately curious Coach, Certified Body Trust® Provider, Intuitive Eating Facilitator, and Open Heart Project Meditation Instructor.

 

She describes herself as fat (a word she has reclaimed as a neutral descriptor for her body) and her lived experience as a fat person are an important part of what she brings to her work. Nicola believes that it’s possible to nourish, care for, and build trust with your body, despite living in a culture that tells you that you need to shrink to fit in. She sees clients online from her home in East London, where she lives with her husband, Ricky, and their two kids.

 

Content Warning: discussion of privilege, mention of ableism, mention of neurodiversity barriers

 

Trigger Warnings:

14:39: Nicola discusses her experience of medical fatphobia during her pregnancies

18:37: Chavonne discusses her experience of medical fatphobia during her pregnancies

24:30: Jenn discusses wheelchairs damaged on flights

 

A few highlights:

4:40: Nicola shares her understanding of embodiment and her own embodiment journey

Addendum: From Nicola: “I talk about my recent diagnosis with ADHD, and at a couple of points I refer to my kids’ neurodiversity also. As I read more about what this means for both of us I have learned to use the word neurodivergence instead.”

14:39 Nicola shares her experience of medical fatphobia during her pregnancies

29:27: Nicola discusses her understanding of “the rest of us” and how she is a part of that, as well as her privileges

31:34: Nicola shares her daily embodiment practice and her take on the word “resilience”

1:04:57: Chavonne repairs with Nicola in the moment

1:07:34: Nicola discusses body stories and their intersections that come up with body justice and fat liberation

Addendum: Nicola credits Hilary Kivaney and Dana Sturtevant of BeNourished, who shared some of the questions as part of her Body Trust Provider training

1:17:45: Nicola discusses how trusting our bodies is the opposite of the search for a cure or purification

Addendum: Nicola wants to name that she is learning from Disability Justice and particularly Eli Clare’s work

1:31:10: Nicola discusses how perfectionism benefits from our shame

Addendum: Nicola credits Tema Okun’s work in this regard and also credits Desiree Adaway, who first introduced her to the article below about white supremacy culture when she did Freedom School a few years ago

1:35:51: Nicola shares how listeners can make a difference based on this conversation

1:39:29: Nicola shares how to be found and what’s next for her

 

Links from this episode:

ADHD

Adrienne Marie Brown

Be Nourished

The Body Is Not An Apology by Sonya Renee Taylor

Body Story

Body Trust

Brilliant Imperfection

Dana Sturtevant

Desiree Adaway

Disability Justice

Eli Clare

Executive Functioning

Freedom School

“Geriatric” Pregnancy

Hilary Kivaney

IFfirmations

Interoception

Kristi Colwell

Medical-Industrial Complex

“The Needy Podcast” episode with Nicola (CW: discusses medical fatphobia in pregnancy)

Niva Piran and the Developmental Theory of Embodiment

Octavia Butler

Proprioception

Sonya Renee Taylor

Strozzi Institute

Tema Okun

Tourette Syndrome

Wheelchairs Being Broken on Flights

White Supremacy Culture Characteristics

 

Music: “Wheel of Karma” by Jason Shaw

 

Please follow us on social media:

Twitter: @embodimentus

Instagram: @embodimentfortherestofus

Captions

 

EFTROU Season 1 Episode 5 is 1 hour, 46 minutes, and 25 seconds (1:46:25) in length

 

[0:00 Music Plays]

 

[0:13 Intro plus EFTROU Podcast Disclaimer]

 

Chavonne (C): Hello there! I’m Chavonne McClay (she/her).

 

Jenn (J): And I’m Jenn Jackson (she/her).

 

(C): And this is Embodiment for the Rest of Us. A podcast series exploring topics within intersections that exist in fat liberation!

 

(J): In this show, we interview professionals and those with lived experience alike to learn how they are affecting radical change and how we can all make this world a safer place for those living in larger bodies and in marginalized spaces.

 

(C): Captions and content warnings are provided in the show notes for each episode, including specific time stamps, so that you can skip triggering content any time that feels supportive to you! This podcast is a representation of our co-host and guest experiences and may not be reflective of yours. These conversations are not medical advice and are not a substitute for mental health or nutrition support.

 

(J): In addition, the conversations held here are not exhaustive in scope or breadth. These topics, these perspectives are not complete and are always in process. These are just the highlights! Just like posts on social media or any other podcast, this is just a glimpse. We are always interested in any feedback on this process if something needs to be addressed. You can email us at listener@embodimentfortherestofus.com And now for today’s episode.

 

[1:39 Episode 5 Introduction and Nicola Haggett’s bio]

(C): Hello and welcome to Episode 5 of season 1 of the Embodiment for the Rest of Us podcast. In today’s episode, we interviewed the incredible Nicola Haggett (she/her) about her embodiment journey.

 

(J): Nicola is a professionally trained, experienced and compassionately curious Coach, Certified Body Trust® Provider, Intuitive Eating Facilitator, and Open Heart Project Meditation Instructor. She describes herself as fat (a word she has reclaimed as a neutral descriptor for her body) and her lived experience as a fat person is an important part of what she brings to her work.

 

(C): Nicola believes that it’s possible to nourish, care for, and build trust with your body, despite living in a culture that tells you that you need to shrink to fit in. She sees clients online from her home in East London, where she lives with her husband, Ricky, and their two kids. You can find her at nicolahaggett.com (double G/double T) or follow her on Instagram at nicolahaggett

 

(J): We are thrilled to have you join us in this conversation! Today’s episode is coming to you, with all its wiggles, right now!